At the highest levels crokinole is becoming a game of centre-shooting. This was evident in the final of the St Jacobs event between Jason Bierling and Justin Slater. There was very little play, mostly centre shooting. The culmination of this came in the final game. Each shot 8 centres (a perfect game to some)
Here are some suggestions to promote discussion. I do not recommend any particular one: I do not know the solution.
1. change the board to make centre shooting more difficult.
2. do not allow "direct centres" i.e. a bounce off a post or disc is necessary
3. allow hiding behind the posts on the 1st 4 shots
4. allow the person who goes 1st to place his shot anywhere in the 15 circle that he likes
I am sure others will have even better suggestions.

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Comment by Preet Singh on August 1, 2010 at 9:28pm
I think adding pegs or holes to the board is ridonkulous. There is nothing wrong with Mr. Slator's opinion of having a shallower 20 though because their less forgiving. I don't agree with tightning the diamater either. Does anyone think an octogon shaped is harder than a circle because I do.
Comment by Eric Miltenburg on July 26, 2010 at 4:32pm
Here's a picture of that '5 hole' board. This one was made by the Hilinski brothers but the idea came up before and can be seen on some of the historical boards posted on Mr Crokinole's site. The idea is that if you knock a disk into one of the holes in the 10 circle it counts minus 10.

Comment by Eric Miltenburg on July 26, 2010 at 4:29pm
How about this then to put a crimp in the straight-ahead-through-the pegs-20-shot. Eight more pegs aligned along the 5\10 circle right in front of the 'sweet spots' that give a clear shot to the 20 hole. This looks like an easy enough customization to a board that I think I'm going to try out once I get a hold of 8 more pegs.
Now I'm not saying that this should be made the official board but it might be something I'd like to have handy to level (or obstruct) the playing deck when a 20 sniper drops by to play a friendly. And it looks like it should provide some dandy rebound action.
This is something along the lines of 'board modification' that we can see in the 'five-hole' board but not as drastic or needing special tools to do the job.

Comment by Brian Miltenburg on June 5, 2010 at 8:49pm
One thing about tournaments, like I found in Tavistock today, is that every board is different, and the ability to adapt to the speed and nuances of the board is also a key strategy to winning tournaments.
BTW I shot a perfect game today! Thanks Fred! Too bad I didn't beat you though. We tied 4 4.
Comment by Jason Hogan on June 5, 2010 at 7:50pm
The only problem with adding shots to the singles game is it will add more playing time. I'm about as average as they get from a competitive perspective in this crokinole world and for the life of me, I don't see what is broke here. IMHO the game should be left the way it is.

Comment by Brian Miltenburg on June 4, 2010 at 2:15pm
I think that is a great idea Howard. I am going to try some 10 man rounds here at home and see what its like. I would also like to try a smaller hole, but I'm not sure how. Thank you Fred for coming up with a great discussion and breathing some life into this forum.
Comment by Howard Martin on June 3, 2010 at 9:21am
I agree with both Ray and Justin not to change the rules in general per say, but I do like the suggestion to increase the number of shots per round. For example in a playoff game and championship game allow each player 10 discs for 2 extra shots each round. Hopefully this would not prolong a tournament by too much?
Comment by Justin Slater on June 2, 2010 at 9:04pm
I have to say that I'm with Ray on this one. Playing a perfect game, especially in the final round of a tournament, was easily the most thrilling Crokinole experience that I have had. Rather than change the rules that make Crokinole what it is, perhaps minor adjustments to the 20 hole will increase the enjoyability of Crokinole. A reduction in size of the centre hole is a good idea. It leaves less room for error which will, generally, decrease the number of 20s per game.
Another possible suggestion is to increase the number of shots per game by 2 or 3, which will not reduce the number of 20s, but it will increase the amount of board play late in the game. This also allows more of a chance to come back from behind, and make perfect games more difficult to achieve.
Comment by Clif Antypowich on May 28, 2010 at 5:07pm
I see some interesting comments here. My personal feelngs is leave it alone. We have a GREAT historical game that has been won on the ability of the best players who have developed their skill at making 20's. For most of us this is not an easy task. Keep it the way it is and admire the talent of skilled player's.
Comment by Ray on May 26, 2010 at 7:58pm
My quick thoughts... A perfect game is very exciting to me. It is no small task. 20s always have and always will be part of the game. I have thought about this for some time and considered all the comments that have been made. If you do not like the 20 game or you are having a rough day dropping buckets, you are more than welcome to try the defensive strategy. My thoughts would be not to modify the rules on this part of the game. One thing I would consider is making the 20 hole tight. This does tow things at the same time. One, prevents the dreaded and frustrating leaning shots, and makes 20s more difficult to sink.

Win-win in my opinion.


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