here are the final results for the tournament.  we played all day on saturday, with action starting at 10 a.m.  the games that took place were absolutely outstanding and congratulations to all who placed.  i had a tough ride in the semis and didn't play to my abilities.  then it was all downhill going into the third place game.  i did have a great time nonetheless and i want to thank the chris brothers yet again for a wonderful event.  it just so happens that you never know what you are going to get when it comes to crokinole.  thanks for everyones interest in this event.

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Awesome,

The legend spreads... Rhonda Eagen wins in style, not dropping a round all tournament. And to make it even better, our insider happened to compete against her.

Decklan, what can you tell us about playing against an Eagen?? Did she use unorthodox strategy??

Also, a rules question... Do you have to shoot for the centre when the board is clear, or can you hide on the outside??? (If Preet happens to read this, I'm curious what they play in your neck of the woods)

joe
Hi Joe,

Most of the time hear we play for shoot at the 20 and you must stick it within the 15-boarder or it gets executed. I have played games and i would say as much as 15% where they still allow hiding behind the pegs which I think still adds skill to the game but most are against because of messyness. Actually I haven't played many if any games for hidden pegs in 2 years. I believe its the same as do you count the game over in pool with scratch on cue ball? Or do u think if theirs oppenents balls on the pool table then the scratch is just a scratch?

Same deal,
Preet
Thanks for posting this Decklan, looks like it was a great tournament.

I am curious to know whether they choose certain players to be seeded, or if the entire draw is made randomly?
thank you so much for your interest guys. to be honest with you, i have no idea what you are talking about with regards to this eagan thing. to answer your questions, she played very solid and i don't think that she missed a shot all game. i didn't happen to catch the final because i played at the same time in the third place game. i did happen to hear she once again was flawless. for an average looking female, she was sure dominant on the 530 square inch deck. the rule that we have in place at events like this, is that if it is an open shot to the 20, you have to at least leave it touching the 15 line. if not, it is taken off the board. when it come to the seedings, it is totally random. the quality of players in the tournament provide a fairly even playing field. i was unlucky to draw kevin chris is the first round, so i guess a little bit of luck is necessary when it come to the draw. i will mention that as far as quality of tournament, this was tops. the food, the drink, and of course the competition and friendship was unparalelled.
Hey Decklan,

The Eagen name (along with Fitzgerald) came up in some online articles that appeared over the last couple of months. We'd discussed it a little bit on this forum to see if anyone had ever played against someone with either of those sur names. Apparently these two families where crokinole gurus, who developed a secret strategy that was almost unbeatable. That's why I asked about technique. I was interested in this story because it was sort of bizarre, and involved these mysterious characters that nobody had actually met. Heres one of those such articles...




The earliest known crokinole board to date was built by Eckhardt Wettlaufer of Sebastopol, Ontario, Canada as a fifth birthday gift for his son, Adam, who was born on December 31, 1871. The board now resides at The Joseph Schneider Haus Museum in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada as part of their Harvest Collection. Several other home-made boards of south western Ontario origin, and dating from the 1870s, have been discovered since the 1990s. It seems to have been patented on April 20, 1880, in New York City by Joshua K. Ingalls.

Crokinole is often believed to be of Mennonite or Amish origins, but there is no factual data to support such a claim. The reason for this misconception may be due to its popularity in Mennonite and Amish groups. The game was viewed as a rather innocuous pastime - unlike the perception that diversions such as card playing or dancing were considered "works of the Devil" as held by many 19th-century Protestant groups. The oldest roots of crokinole, from the 1860s, suggest the British and South Asian games are the most likely antecedents of what became crokinole.

In 1899, Crokinole was revolutionized by what is still known today as the "Eagan Opening". Thomas Eagan developed a complicated, 3-turn hybrid opening sequence in Tottenham, Ontario that confused, and ultimately defeated, the Perth County players. The Eagan Opening has never been published, but appears to have been passed down generation by generation to Thomas Eagan's descendants by word of mouth. What is known is that, on the initial shot, the "20" is missed on purpose, with the disc being left on the edge of the 20-hole. Then, depending on the opponent's response, the second or third shot is left behind the player's front-left peg that requires absolute precision for the opponent to remove. Even if the opponent was capable of "breaking through" the Eagan Opening, which the Eagan family themselves were experts at, it often caused such mental exhaustion that it resulted in defeat over the course of the game.

In the late 1940s, a crokinole playing family from North-eastern Newfoundland named the Fitzgeralds visited Tottenham on a cross-country tour. They introduced the Eagan family to the "Coachman's Screen", which purposely lulls the play into the 5-point area on the opponent's cross-side. The Eagan and Fitzgerald families soon learned that the Eagan Opening and Coachman's Screen, when used together, made them virtually unbeatable. Within the local church, after the Catholic mass on Sunday morning, they taught each other the angles and the succession matrix of each technique.

In 2006, a documentary film called Crokinole was released. The world premiere occurred at the Princess Cinema in Waterloo, Ontario, in early 2006. The movie follows some of the competitors of the 2004 World Crokinole Championship as they prepare for the event.
wow! what a weird story?! i had no idea about this "cabal" (as this term is used frequently while i was looking into the bizarre story). i really didn't get to talk to this rhonda, that played in our tournament and after looking into it further, nobody seemed to know who she was. i think that this could be quite a facinating story, but lets be honest, this just has to be a really weird coincidence. there does happen to be quite a bit of information on the web about this though, so is this real or what?? i don't know too much about the history of crokinole but this story has to spark a little bit of a debate doesn't it?? anyway, with regard to this weird "opening" or whatever it is called, rhonda did like to leave her discs behind pegs whenever possible. but, like i said, this has to be a fluke with regards to the name association.
"Nobody seemed to know who she was eh???? Interesting....
Coincidence?? I looked at the field, curious to see if one of two sur names happened to appear. Fitzgerald or Eagen; names oddly attached to crokinole legend. Bingo. I was curious as to how this person would fair. This person wins the tournament without dropping a game. coincidence? maybe.

That bizarre story was on some obscure tech website, and has no credibility to it (as far as I'm concerned). In fact, everything about Fitzgerald-Eagen seems to comes from one unverifiable source. Maybe the whole thing is a prank.
Actually Decklan, I know that Rhonda knows Stephanie Lessard and that is who got her in to the tournament. Which means that she probably plays crokinole with Joanne Reyat, Gary Mac, and Jonesy at the St. Vital curling club on Wednesdays.
i figured that she was associated with joanne because they are both fairly wide set women. just jokes. also, i was wondering if anyone knows the ins and outs of hanging crokinole boards. i have been hearing that hanging them is the best way to keep them from warping. my only wonder is do you have to have some sort of hooks underneath to hang them on or can you hang it just from the edge of the board or from the wood underneath. i kind of think that it is cheesey to hang it on a wall, but if it is protecting the board, then i guess it would work. i don't know what to think.
HI Decklan, Thanks for all the great info on the Assiniboia tournament. I'd like to return the favour by answering your question about to hang a board but I hope you don't mind if I divert this topic by starting a new thread, so I'm going to post my answer - headed by your question - under the discussion topic 'Boards & Equipment'.
It seems that 'General Questions' is getting all the traffic, maybe if I put it at the bottom of the list the other topics will fill out a bit more. (Just trying to keep things organized)

So check out 'Boards & Equipment' section for 'A Board Well Hung'

Cheers,

Eric
Sounds like I missed a great tourney!

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